UFOS, ARE THEY FOR REAL? Larry King Live on CNN

Part 1

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_u86T63i74

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kob8EgeiBAY

Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P-hNHG-Pmc

Nick Pope, former head of the government’s UFO investigations, isn’t so sure. He talks to Raf Sanchez about the great ‘unexplained’.

So what did Pope see during his time at the UFO Project that not only converted him from a skeptic but has turned him into something of a campaigner for a scientific approach to Ufology? The answer lies in a proportion of 5%. Pope found that of the 200-300 reports of UFO sightings that came across his desk every year, 80% could be explained away as “misidentifications of something ordinary, such as aircraft lights, satellites, airships, weather balloons or planets.” In a further 15% the information was too sparse to make any real judgements. Yet, in the remaining 5% there was enough information, usually in the form of radar signatures and visual sightings by trained observers like RAF pilots, yet still no one was able to identify the object. To Pope these incidents were “very interesting and by definition ‘unexplained’“.

(Full article: http://www.nouse.co.uk)

You can see in this article, that Pope has a military background. His reaction is to think that Extraterrestrial would “call the shots”. And with this type of thinking, is starting a relationship on a very wrong foot.

What if, they are just neighbors and wanted to say hi? What if they wanted to help us go through our current energy and ecological crisis? I could see countless of benevolent situation, yet our chimp brain kicks in and creates the worst scenarios possible…We gotta grow up from those habits.

he Real X-Files: the Inside Story of the MoD’s UFO Project

By Society of Chemical Industry
SCI Liverpool & North West Lecture

The Ministry of Defence receives more Freedom of Information Act requests relating to UFOs than on any other subject, including the war in Iraq. The MoD is shortly to begin releasing some of its most sensitive UFO files, relating to Defence Intelligence Staff investigations into the phenomenon. After that, many expect the MoD to declassify and release their entire archive of UFO files. What’s in the files? Why was the MoD investigating the subject at all? What did they conclude? What are the most fascinating cases in the government files? Why do so many people believe the government is covering up the truth about UFOs?

To find the answers to these questions, come along to the Catalyst Science Discovery Centre on Mersey Road in Widnes, WA8 0FD, on Saturday 13 October at 11am. Nick Pope, who ran the MoD’s UFO project for much of the early Nineties, will be giving a talk and answering questions on the subject. Entry is free.

After Nick’s talk you can tour the Catalyst Discovery Centre at the reduced rate of £2.50 for adults and £2 for children.

(Source: http://www.firstscience.com)

he Real X-Files: the Inside Story of the MoD’s UFO Project

By Society of Chemical Industry
SCI Liverpool & North West Lecture

The Ministry of Defence receives more Freedom of Information Act requests relating to UFOs than on any other subject, including the war in Iraq. The MoD is shortly to begin releasing some of its most sensitive UFO files, relating to Defence Intelligence Staff investigations into the phenomenon. After that, many expect the MoD to declassify and release their entire archive of UFO files. What’s in the files? Why was the MoD investigating the subject at all? What did they conclude? What are the most fascinating cases in the government files? Why do so many people believe the government is covering up the truth about UFOs?

To find the answers to these questions, come along to the Catalyst Science Discovery Centre on Mersey Road in Widnes, WA8 0FD, on Saturday 13 October at 11am. Nick Pope, who ran the MoD’s UFO project for much of the early Nineties, will be giving a talk and answering questions on the subject. Entry is free.

After Nick’s talk you can tour the Catalyst Discovery Centre at the reduced rate of £2.50 for adults and £2 for children.

(Source: http://www.firstscience.com)

UK-MoD Report Says Ufos Do Not Exist In The Uk: Some British Pilots And Military Members Might Disagree

Written by Bill Knell

Saturday, 09 June 2007

According to a once secret report released by the British Ministry of Defense in April of 2007, UFOs are not anything to get excited about. The MoD report claims that all the incidents they have investigated show the objects in question to be without mass, no danger to air traffic and not under intelligent control. Despite the four hundred pages of nay saying, not everyone agrees. For almost two decades, a number of British Intelligence Analysts and former UK military consultants working for the MoD have leaked documents which reveal that UFOs are intelligently-controlled vehicles of extra-terrestrial origin. The MoD leaks, recent reports that former Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin saw a UFO from his aircraft in 2004 and statements from other Canadian officials which indicate UFOs are alien spacecraft may be the reason for this latest piece of disinformation. While the MoD may believe that there is nothing to this whole UFO thing, they might have considered checking with at least two UK Commercial Airline Pilots that recent saw one. Captain Ray Bowyer, 50, of Aurigny Airlines, spotted a “bright-yellow light” 10 miles west of Alderney at about 3pm during a flight from Southampton while his aircraft was 30 miles from the island at 4,000 feet on Monday, April 23, 2007. Captain Bowyer: “It was a very sharp, thin yellow object with a green area. It was 2,000ft up and stationary. I thought it was about 10 miles away, although I later realized it was approximately 40 miles from us. At first, I thought it was the size of a [Boeing] 737. “But it must have been much bigger because of how far away it was. It could have been as much as a mile wide.” While on approach to Guernsey, Bowyer noticed a “second identical object further to the west”. He said: “It was exactly the same but looked smaller because it was further away. It was closer to Guernsey. I can’t explain it. At first, I thought it might have been a reflection from a vinery in Guernsey, but that would have disappeared quickly. This was clearly visual for about nine minutes. As I got closer to it, it became clear to me that it was tangible. I was in two minds about going towards it to have a closer look but decided against it because of the size of it. I had to think of the safety of the passengers first. I’m certainly not saying that it was something of another world. All I’m saying is that I have never seen anything like it before in all my years of flying.” Bowyer reported the incident to Paul Kelly, 31, an Air Traffic Controller on duty. Kelly indicated that nothing appeared on his radar. However, ATC Paul Kelly received a “similar report” from a Blue Islands pilot en route to Jersey at the same time. Kelly explained that as the pilot went past Sark he “described an object behind him to his left”. Kelly continued: “The description was very similar to Captain Bowyer’s and they described it as being in exactly the same place. But they were looking at it from opposite sides.” The other pilot said that the UFO was 1,550 feet lower than his aircraft, which was at 3,500ft. “Both pilots placed it at the same altitude”, Kelly added. In 1987, I published a phone interview that I did with an official for the British Ministry of Defense in The New York UFO Report. The official was an assistant to a person involved with nuclear investigations. Because I knew the person which arranged the phone interview very well, there was no doubt that I was speaking with a very important source of insider information when it came to the MoD. The official told me that there were numerous incursions into areas where nuclear weapons and other sensitive materials were stored. These incursions involved unidentified aircraft and physical beings of unknown origin. He refused to elaborate about the beings fearing that any further descriptions might help identify him. According to him, general stories about the creatures and crafts that made the incursions were common knowledge to many in the MoD. Recent statements by Nick Pope may have helped to validate those stories. In November of 2006, Nick Pope (the former head of the MoD UFO research project) told the British Press that his Country was vulnerable to invasion or infiltration by extra-terrestrial forces. Pope felt that the shutting down of UFO research at the MoD Directorate of Defense Security has left his nation unprepared to defend against Aliens. As a result, he resigned his position with the Directorate. On previous occasions he has stated that the MoD wasn’t hiding anything from the British Public. I wonder how he feels now? My own source at the MoD said that the organization was of two minds when it came to UFOs. Many UK Military Officers feel there is ample evidence to believe that Aliens exist and are visiting the Earth without respect for national boundaries or security. That makes them a national security concern. Others at the MoD believe the entire matter is without merit and should be ignored. Time either heals all wounds or wounds all heals. In this case, time has been a friend to my source. Over the past twenty years since that interview with him, I have watched the UK Government split hairs over UFOs. When the UFO incident took place near the Bentwaters Base and NATO Facility in 1980, it was confirmation that UFOs are making incursions into security sensitive UK military facilities. The aftermath also revealed a clear split among military members and their hierarchy when it came to the subject of UFOs. Officially, it seemed that no one was really sure what happened at Bentwaters. Everything from Light House Beacons to reflective tree bark was rolled out to explain away the incident. But most of the people on the ground when it happened seemed convinced this wasn’t an ordinary event involving a conventional explanation. As with Roswell and hundreds of other cases involving military bases, aircraft, ships and UFOs, you had the choice of believing those who were there or people writing reports about it later to suit there own political and philosophical needs. Even if you have spent just a few minutes researching UFOs and have an open mind, will not be fooled by the MoD Report. As with other self-serving documents like the 1997 Air Force Report on the Roswell Crash and the recent UFO files released by France, these papers are designed to create doubt and mask any other information government agencies possess about UFOs and Aliens. Read more true stories about the Unexplained at http://www.UFOguy.com Author: Bill Knell

(Source: http://pr-gb.com)

Could we have hitched a ride on UFOs?

Newly released files may put one mystery to bed, but in doing so others are left unanswered

James Randerson
Thursday February 22, 2007
The Guardian

It is not the sort of discussion you imagine among the grey-suited ranks of Whitehall – defence analysts debating the existence of little green men and speculating about whether they have visited Earth.

But a set of newly released internal Ministry of Defence documents gives a fascinating insight into the military’s interest in UFOs. They tell the story of the MoD’s decision to investigate the threat they might pose and whether alien military technology could be used in the defence of the realm. They also reveal the conflicting attitudes within Whitehall to the subject and the lengths that officials went to in order to keep the project secret.

The documents, many marked “Secret UK Eyes A”, lay out the rationale for the three-year Project Condign report which analysed more than 10,000 possible UFO sightings collected over several decades – many from military personnel. The existence of the 460-page report was revealed last year following freedom of information requests by David Clarke, a lecturer in journalism at Sheffield Hallam University, and his colleague Gary Anthony. It was more FOI sleuthing on their part that turned up the current slew of papers.

The documents show that the internal lobbying effort for a UFO study began in 1993. In a briefing note from the secret UFO investigation branch of Defence Intelligence – called DI55 – an unnamed author wrote: “The national security implications are considerable. We have many reports of strange objects in the skies and we have never investigated them.

Paranoid response

“I also believe that it is important to appreciate that what is scientific ‘fact’ today may not be true tomorrow … If reports are taken at face value then devices exist that do not use conventional reaction propulsion systems, they have a very wide range of speeds and are stealthy. I suggest that we could use this technology, if it exists.”

And he speculates: “If the sightings are of devices not of the Earth then their purpose needs to be established as a matter of priority … possibilities are: 1 Military reconnaissance. 2 Scientific. 3 Tourism.”

According to a former MoD intelligence analyst who asked not be named, the MoD was paranoid in the late 1980s that the Soviet Union had developed technology that went beyond western knowledge of physics. “For many years we were very concerned that in some areas the Russians had a handle on physics that we hadn’t at all. We just basically didn’t know the basics they were working from,” he said. “We did encourage our scientists not to think that we in the west knew everything there was to be known.”

Material that was held back from the original FOI release of the Project Condign report, but which was published in October after an appeal, suggests that the MoD suspected that this scientific knowledge came from studying UFOs – or unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) as the MoD prefers to call them. “Russian, former Soviet republics and Chinese authorities have made a co-ordinated effort to understand the UAP topic. Several aircraft have been destroyed and at least four pilots have been killed ‘chasing UFOs’.”

One of Project Condign’s conclusions was that UAP events could be put down to poorly understood phenomena called plasmas. The report says that the Russian military was doing research using plasmas as reflector antennas, aerodynamic drag reducers, stealth absorbers and using them to produce “saucer-shaped volumes”.

The initial request in 1993 for an MoD research project into UFOs was shelved, but in a later memo dated June 19 1995 following a surge in UFO reports, the same unnamed wing commander at DI55 wrote: “Until we conduct some analysis of the files we will not have any idea what the many reports represent. If at any stage in the future UAPs are shown to exist then there is the potential for severe embarrassment.”

Clarke, whose book Flying Saucerers: The Social History of Ufology will be published in April, says: “They knew that because no detailed study of the subject had ever been carried out – and consequently they had no idea what UFOs were – they could not justify the claim they were of no threat.”

Nick Pope, who worked on the MoD’s public UFO desk until 1994 and features in the correspondence, adds: “This was always the big debate. How could you possibly fulfil the remit of looking at the issue properly to see if there was anything of defence significance, without carrying out research and investigation? I think it is one of these subjects where it is low probability, high consequence,” he adds. “For the want of spending a little bit of money, the potential wins if there were anything of any defence significance here would be worth having.”

But how much money did the MOD spend? One document refers to a £35,000 cost estimate, while in another from 1996, the head of Defence Intelligence (Scientific and Technical) estimated £80,000 for a year-long study. Project Condign when it was eventually begun took more than three years to complete. So does that mean a price tag of at least £240,000?

No, according to the MoD, although it would not release the true figure. “This assumption that the sum will tally up to £80,000 a year isn’t supported and is inaccurate. It was funded from an existing contract within existing budgetary levels,” it adds.

The project was given to a trusted defence contractor and although details of the contract have not been revealed, the documents suggest that it was handled so as not to expose Project Condign to scrutiny. In the initial 1993 correspondence on the subject, a memo from DI55 refers to the potential “political embarrassment” of the project becoming known. It goes on: “I believe that opening a new contract especially for this study and using competitive tendering would potentially expose the study to too wide an audience.”

But Pope believes this was simply a practical measure. “Using an existing contract is always going to be easier than actually commissioning a new one,” he says. “It wasn’t an attempt to take it outside scrutiny. It was a quick fix.”

Suspicious minds

The internal memos and briefing notes are peppered with hints of the considerable scepticism the DI55 wing commander encountered from superiors. In the original August 1993 brief he writes: “I am well aware that anyone who talks about UFOs is treated with a certain degree of suspicion. I am briefing on the topic because DI55 have a UFO responsibility, not because I talk to little green men every night!”

And in a later document he describes a briefing by DI55 on the subject. “The scientists and engineers present treated to [sic] topic seriously while non scientists (or those without a physical science background) made the usual jokes about little green men and mass hallucination!”

When Project Condign was eventually completed in 2000 it concluded that there was no evidence that UAPs were of extra-terrestrial origin. But there was a limit to what the author could do, because he was not allowed to interview people who had witnessed UAP events or talk to experts.

“The nature of the security classification meant he was unable to discuss the study with scientists who might have been able to advise him on the credibility of the conclusions he reached,” says Clarke. This explains Project Condign’s baffling conclusion – that UAPs are real, but caused by strange plasmas, which are on the fringes of scientific understanding. “He ended up trying to explain one mystery by reference to another,” says Pope.

(Source: http://technology.guardian.co.uk)